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PostSubject: SAYING HELLO FROM UK   Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:45 am

SAYING HI FROM ENGLAND,NICE TO SEE THERES A WORLD WIDE FAN CLUB OV A GREAT CAR,INTERESTING FORUM HERE IN ENGLAND NOT MUCH TUNING STUFF FOR 3SGE ENGINE MOST RUNING STANDARD ENGINES WANT TO EXTRACT MORE POWER OUT OV MINE RATHER THAN GO 3SGTE LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME INTERESTING READS/STEVE
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PostSubject: Re: SAYING HELLO FROM UK   Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:58 am

Hi and welcome Very Happy

How much are you looking to spend?

Also, have you got a BHP goal?
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PostSubject: Re: SAYING HELLO FROM UK   Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:23 pm

welcome, what model celica do you have?
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PostSubject: Re: SAYING HELLO FROM UK   Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:16 pm

Hi and welcome, what model Celica do you have?

Depending on the generation of celica/3SGE, you can:

- Custom exhaust system
- Cold air intake
- Camshafts (if its a gen 2 3SGE, you can use gen 3 ST202 cams for more power)

If you have more money

http://nacelicas.darkbb.com/n-a-celica-tech-f23/more-responsive-na-motor-t154.htm

Or you can supercharge it Cool

http://nacelicas.darkbb.com/f-i-celica-tech-f24/3sgze-how-to-t164.htm

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PostSubject: Re: SAYING HELLO FROM UK   Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:29 pm

ITS AN ST182 GTI WIDE BODY,APPARANTLY ONLY AVAILBLE IN HOLAND AND BELGUIM BUT MINE A UK CAR WITH RIGHTHAND DRIVE LOOKING FOR ABOUT 180BHP TO START BUT RECKON U SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET 200.ITS HAVING A NEW COAT OF PAINT THIS WINTER AS THE REDS DEAD,THINKING WHITE AT THE MINUTE BUT MAY CHANGE MY MIND
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PostSubject: Re: SAYING HELLO FROM UK   Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:02 pm

Hi Steve and welcome.
Maybe want to swap a redtop Beams in it? Or supercharge it like Jamie said before. Otherwise there aren't that many options to reach 200 BHP on a gen 2 3S-GE. It's a huge step to go from 150 bhp to a reliable 200 bhp on a n/a engine, and there will be a lot of $$$ involved.

Goodluck anyways, and enjoy your stay here Cool
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PostSubject: Re: SAYING HELLO FROM UK   Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:10 pm

THOUGHT ABOUT A BEAMS,JUST BEEN OFFERD A ST165 ENGINE BLOCK SO MIGHT GO TURBO USING MY HEAD,185 EXHAUST MANIFOLD AND TWIN ENTRY TURBO PLUS 185 INLET AND ECU WITH FRONT MOUNTED COOLER
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PostSubject: Re: SAYING HELLO FROM UK   Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:19 pm

Then why not buy a st185 block?

btw. capslock is on Wink
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PostSubject: Re: SAYING HELLO FROM UK   Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:26 pm

165 and 185 blocks are the same as far as im aware cold be wrong,been told thats its possilbe to us a 3sge head,can build a motor cheaper than what they want for a second hand one i reckon still looking into it not in no rush as up for respray this winter were in holland are u we drive through holland to or three times a year on the way to germany
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PostSubject: Re: SAYING HELLO FROM UK   Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:32 pm

I live in Hoorn, that's a small town aproximatly 40 km above our world famous city of Amsterdam lol!

Sure it's possible to use your 3S-GE head, but you also need to get a hand on a intake manifold and lots of other small parts to get the thing working. 2nd gen 3S-GTE's are plentyfull in the UK and then you most probably get all the parts you need at once, instead searching througout the country for parts.
You'll end up cheaper with the 2nd gen GTE Wink
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PostSubject: Re: SAYING HELLO FROM UK   Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:39 am

Welcome matey afro
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PostSubject: Re: SAYING HELLO FROM UK   Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:11 pm

As NSX said, will still be cheaper for a gen 2 3SGTE.

Squeezing 200bhp from a gen 2 3SGE is possible if you have the cash.

If you still don't want to go down the GTE route, you can always get a gen 3 3SGE from an ST202 Celica. I think the gen 3 3SGE is a good base for an N/A build for 200bhp.

I have always wanted a beams but can't justify the price of them. Would be cheaper to find a gen 3 3SGE and tune it up 200bhp. There isn't too much difference between the two (higher compression, different intake manifold and ECU i think).

Don't forget though, you may want to upgrade your transmission aswell Wink

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